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Prophecy in Modern Times: Discernment, Platforms, and the Cost of Never Being Wrong
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Prophecy in Modern Times: Discernment, Platforms, and the Cost of Never Being Wrong

Prophecy has always been part of the Christian story. From Moses and Samuel to Isaiah, Jeremiah, and John on Patmos, God has spoken through human messengers. The New Testament does not end prophecy—it regulates it. Paul explicitly tells believers not to despise prophecy, but to test everything and hold fast to what is good (1 Thessalonians 5:20–21).

That tension—openness without gullibility—is where the modern church now struggles.

How Christians View Prophecy Today

Different Christian traditions approach prophecy very differently:

  • Cessationist traditions (many Reformed and mainline churches) believe prophetic gifts ceased with the apostles.

  • Continuationist traditions (charismatic and Pentecostal churches) believe prophecy continues but must be judged.

  • Popular prophetic media movements treat prophecy as ongoing revelation with national and global implications.

The debate is not whether prophecy exists—but how it functions, how it is tested, and what happens when it fails.

FlashPoint and Elijah Streams: What They Are

Two of the most influential platforms in the modern prophetic movement are FlashPoint and Elijah Streams.

  • FlashPoint, hosted by Gene Bailey and associated with Kenneth Copeland Ministries, blends prophecy, politics, and cultural commentary.

  • Elijah Streams, hosted by Steve Shultz, provides a platform for modern prophetic voices to speak directly to audiences, often in interview format.

I listened to both extensively. I didn’t come to them hostile. I came hungry, hopeful, and genuinely wanting discernment.

And at first, much of it sounded compelling.

The Problem of Vague Prophecy

Over time, a pattern becomes hard to ignore.

Many modern prophetic words are:

  • Broad enough to be reinterpreted later

  • Flexible enough to be reframed after events occur

  • Emotionally resonant but logically unfalsifiable

This is not unique to Christian prophecy. It mirrors how psychics, horoscopes, and even birthday cards work—statements vague enough that people fill in the meaning themselves.

When something seems right, it’s counted as fulfilled.
When it doesn’t happen, the interpretation is adjusted.

That should concern believers.

The 2020 Election and the Crisis of Credibility

The turning point for many—including me—was the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Numerous prophetic voices on FlashPoint and Elijah Streams explicitly stated:

  • Donald Trump would win

  • He would win decisively

  • He would win in a landslide

  • God had guaranteed the outcome

Names frequently associated with these claims include Julie Green, Robin Bullock, and Kat Kerr, among others.

But Trump did not win the election.

Instead of public repentance or acknowledgment of error, a different narrative emerged:

Trump didn’t lose—there was massive fraud.

Here’s where the problem deepens.

When I asked a simple question—
Who prophesied beforehand that Trump would lose the election but remain president through fraud or court intervention?
I didn’t get answers.

I got attacked.

Not debated. Attacked.

The issue is not whether fraud occurred. The issue is whether the specific prophetic claims matched reality.

They didn’t.

And redefining failure as victory after the fact is not biblical accountability.

Biblical Prophecy Was Testable

In Scripture:

  • Prophets were judged by whether what they said happened

  • Failed prophecy had consequences

  • Prophets did not get to endlessly reinterpret outcomes

Deuteronomy 18 doesn’t allow retroactive reframing.

New Testament prophecy is more gracious, but it is still accountable.

Mario Murillo Breaks Ranks

One of the most striking moments in this entire debate came when Mario Murillo, a longtime charismatic evangelist and friend to many in the movement, publicly stated that Julie Green, Robin Bullock, and Kat Kerr were false prophets.

This wasn’t a progressive critic.
This wasn’t a secular journalist.
This was an insider.

Murillo argued that refusing to admit error damages the credibility of the gospel itself.

The response was swift—and brutal.

He was targeted, attacked, and accused of betrayal.

Lance Wallnau Responds

Perhaps most revealing was the response from Lance Wallnau, one of the most influential figures connecting prophecy, politics, and the “Seven Mountains” worldview.

Instead of grappling seriously with the issue of failed prophecy, the response focused on loyalty, unity, and the danger of public criticism.

But unity without truth is not biblical unity.
And loyalty without accountability becomes a cult of personality.

Why This Matters Spiritually

The Bible warns more about false prophecy than almost anything else related to spiritual gifts.

Not because prophecy isn’t real—
but because it’s powerful.

When prophets are never wrong, never accountable, and never corrected, something has gone deeply wrong.

At that point:

  • Faith turns into faction

  • Discernment becomes disloyalty

  • Questioning becomes rebellion

That is not the Spirit of Christ.

Where I Land

I still believe God speaks.
I still believe prophecy exists.
I still believe the church needs spiritual discernment more than ever.

But I no longer believe:

  • Popularity equals accuracy

  • Confidence equals anointing

  • Platforms equal authority

And I don’t believe redefining failure as fraud preserves prophetic integrity.

If prophecy cannot be tested, corrected, or repented of, it stops being biblical prophecy and starts becoming something else entirely.

Something closer to political fortune-telling than the fear of the Lord.

Final Thought

The greatest prophets in Scripture were not those who were never wrong—but those who feared God enough to tell the truth, even when it cost them everything.

If modern prophecy cannot survive honest questioning, then it’s not prophecy that’s under attack—it’s credibility.

And that’s a problem the church can no longer afford to ignore.

Prophecy in the Modern Church: Platforms, Predictions, Accountability, and Discernment

Prophecy has always been part of the Christian faith. But what counts as prophecy? and how should the church respond when prophetic words publicly miss the mark? These questions have become urgent in recent years.

In the early church, prophecy was evaluated by community elders and the fruit it produced (1 Corinthians 14; 1 Thessalonians 5:20–21). Yet in the modern media age, prophetic voices often rise or fall based on platforms, personalities, and social influence.

This post examines how different Christians view prophecy today, looks at two major platforms (FlashPoint and Elijah Streams), and addresses a growing crisis of prophetic accountability—especially as it relates to the 2020 U.S. presidential election.


How Christians Traditionally View Prophecy

Across denominations, there are three broad perspectives:

  • Cessationism: prophetic gifts ceased with the apostles and the closing of the New Testament canon.

  • Contemporary continuationism: prophecy continues but must be tested by Scripture.

  • Charismatic prophetic culture: ongoing prophetic words and interpretations are normal and publicly shared without a formal discernment filter.

These differing views shape how believers respond when prophetic words are proclaimed and later appear to fail.


FlashPoint and Elijah Streams — Platforms of Modern Prophecy

Two of the most prominent modern prophetic platforms are:

📺 FlashPoint

Originally launched in 2020 on the Victory Channel, FlashPoint blends prophecy, politics, and cultural commentary. It features Christian nationalists and dominionist voices encouraging political engagement as spiritual destiny.

A report on the show notes that FlashPoint was launched during the 2020 election to boost support for former President Donald Trump, regularly featuring dominionist “prophets” who link divine mandate to electoral outcomes.

🔔 Elijah Streams

Hosted by Steve Shultz, Elijah Streams amplifies prophetic voices from charismatic and Pentecostal subcultures. It has become a megaphone for contemporary prophetic words with global audiences, often overlapping with Christian nationalist narratives.

Both platforms are influential not just because of what they say, but because they consistently frame political outcomes as spiritual destiny.


The 2020 Election and Prophetic Predictions

One of the most controversial aspects of recent prophecy has been predictions related to the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Many popular prophetic voices—including figures regularly featured on FlashPoint and Elijah Streams—prophesied that Donald Trump would be reelected.

For example:

  • Lance Wallnau has publicly stated that he believed “God’s desire” was for Trump to remain in office and that Trump would return, seeing him as a “Cyrus-type” figure who restrains evil.

However, Trump lost the 2020 election.

Rather than issuing broad public repentance or admitting the prophecy did not materialize, many in these circles responded by asserting fraud and irregularities as the reason the word did not appear to come to pass. This shift has made accountability challenging.


Mario Murillo: Calling Out False Prophets

Evangelist Mario Murillo has been one of the most visible critics from within the charismatic sphere of certain popular prophetic ministries.

Murillo publicly warned that many self-described prophets—such as Robin Bullock, Kat Kerr, Julie Green, and Hank Kunneman—had made repeated predictions that did not come to pass, particularly around Trump’s reelection.

In a 2023 message, Murillo wrote:

“There is an entire network of evil nefarious false prophets deceiving the sheep… all their ear-tickling words come from the enemy deceiver… The 2020 Trump prophecies fell short…”

He argued that when a word attributed to God fails, Scripture commands accountability (Deuteronomy 18:18–22). But many prophetic voices instead responded with excuses like:

  • delaying fulfillment because believers were not faithful enough

  • avoiding addressing the failed prophecy directly

  • insisting that prophets can make mistakes (a position Murillo says essentially casts God as fallible)

Murillo’s critique is notable because it comes from inside the charismatic prophetic movement rather than from outside critics.


The Response from Prophetic Circles

Not everyone agreed with Murillo’s critique.

Some comment threads on Murillo’s ministry blog defended the popular prophets, arguing that criticizing prophetic voices equates to resisting God or that the critics lack faith. One commenter wrote that attacking prophets is itself a spiritual error and that prophetic ministry is essential and Spirit-led even when it feels uncomfortable.

This highlights a real challenge in modern Christian prophetic culture: questions are often treated as disloyalty rather than opportunities for discernment and correction.


A Word on Accountability

Scripture does not allow prophets to remain unaccountable. Deuteronomy 18 warns:

“…if what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place… that is a word the LORD has not spoken.”
— Deuteronomy 18:22

Jesus affirmed the reality of false prophets in the last days (Matthew 24:24). Paul commanded believers to test the spirits and hold fast to what is good (1 Thessalonians 5:20–21).

Accountability is not optional; it is biblical.


The Problem With Vague Prophecy

One of the patterns critics point to is vagueness.

Prophetic words that are broad, metaphorical, or emotionally resonant can be retrofitted into events after the fact—just as horoscopes, psychics, and positive bumper-sticker affirmations exploit vagueness to feel right in hindsight.

Without clear specificity, prophecy becomes:

  • Unfalsifiable

  • Too easy to reinterpret

  • Less accountable to Scripture

This is precisely why many believers have become skeptical—not of prophecy itself, but of prophetic culture without testing.


Why This Matters

Prophecy can be a gift that:

  • encourages believers

  • clarifies spiritual focus

  • calls for repentance

  • exhorts the church toward holiness

But when prophecy becomes:

  • political forecasting

  • unaccountable prediction

  • entertainment rather than edification
    …it risks doing more harm than good.

The true test of prophetic ministry is not personality or platform, but:

  • alignment with Scripture

  • accuracy where specific claims are made

  • humility and repentance when words do not come to pass

  • a focus on Jesus and the gospel above all else


A Call for Discernment

If the early church judged prophecy (1 Corinthians 14), it wasn’t because they distrusted God—but because they valued truth and clarity over popularity and affirmation.

Testing prophecy does not mean rejecting God’s active voice.
It means taking the Bible seriously.

And when prophetic words miss:

  • we must acknowledge it

  • repent if needed

  • return to Scripture

  • prioritize Jesus over predictions

Because the danger is not prophecy itself—it’s a culture of prophecy that stops being accountable to God’s Word.

What Prophetic Voices Actually Said About the 2020 Election

When we talk about modern prophecy and political claims, the words themselves matter — not just impressions or interpretations. Here are documented examples from prophetic figures who appeared on platforms like FlashPoint, Elijah Streams, or related charismatic circles:


📌 Robin Bullock

Prophet Robin Bullock is among those who publicly claimed God told him Trump would win reelection. When that did not happen, he doubled down instead of acknowledging error:

Bullock insisted prophets could not possibly have been wrong about Trump’s reelection:
“There’s some things that we’ve given in a prophetic word… [they] come to pass. Do you think that they would hit it on everything like that and miss who won the election? Folks, that’s stupid.”

This response avoids admitting the original prediction was incorrect despite reality — and instead questions anyone who would see it as error.


📌 Paula White-Cain / FlashPoint Connections

While not always making explicit prophetic electoral predictions, charismatic leaders featured on FlashPoint — such as Paula White-Cain — reinforced post-election narratives that framed Trump’s loss as illegitimate and encouraged prayer focused on political outcomes rather than repentance or theological clarity. For example:

Gene Bailey, host of FlashPoint, prayed over Trump and urged that God would “motivate the American people… to get out and vote in mass like they’ve never voted before.”

The FlashPoint ecosystem consistently blended prophetic language with political campaigning, encouraging audiences to view electoral outcomes through spiritual lenses.


📌 Lance Wallnau

Lance Wallnau, a major figure associated with FlashPoint and Elijah Streams followers, had a long history of tying Trump to spiritual significance:

Wallnau promoted the idea that Trump was anointed like King Cyrus — suggesting Trump’s political role was part of a divine plan. He later framed Trump’s loss as a result of spiritual conflict, claiming “fighting Trump is fighting with God.”

After the election, Wallnau and others shifted the narrative to one of spiritual warfare and demonic interference.


📌 Broad Prophetic Predictions Across the Movement

Independent of specific platforms, many charismatic figures publicly predicted Trump’s victory in 2020 only to maintain their prophetic legitimacy afterward:

  • Kat Kerr explicitly said Trump would win in a “landslide.”

  • Some prophets (e.g., those listed in compilations) had predicted a second Trump term and downplayed or reframed failures rather than repenting.

A large list compiled by independent watchers included figures such as Paula White-Cain, Kris Vallotton, Mark Taylor, Kat Kerr, and others making strong prophetic claims about Trump’s electoral future — none of which came to pass as originally stated.


📌 How Some Responded to Failed Prophecies

After the outcome of the 2020 election, many leaders did not repent publicly in the way biblical accountability would require. Instead:

  • Some reinterpreted their words as referring to future elections (e.g., 2024).

  • Others ascribed the failure to fraud or spiritual warfare, arguing that lack of enough prayer or obedience caused the result.

  • A few moderators of prophetic platforms suggested controversy was simply a partisan attack on prophetic voices.

Mario Murillo — himself a charismatic preacher — explicitly called out several popular prophets for endangering credibility by refusing to acknowledge these failed predictions and instead doubling down on political narratives. Murillo named names (e.g., Kat Kerr, Robin Bullock) and warned that their uncorrected prophetic claims were hurting the gospel’s witness.


Why This Matters for Discernment

These actual quotes and documented responses reveal several patterns:

✔ Prophetic Language Was Often Specific

Many voices did not merely speak general blessing—they predicted a second Trump term or a landslide victory.

✔ Responses to Failed Predictions Were Reactive, Not Reflective

Instead of admitting error or publicly repenting, many shifted the framework to fraud or ongoing spiritual battle.

✔ Some Leaders Are Now Calling for Accountability

Voices like Mario Murillo — from within the movement — have directly labeled other high-profile prophets as false because of their uncorrected predictions.

✔ There Is a Real Risk of Prophetic Ambiguity

When prophecy is vague, untested, or politically loaded, it becomes easy to reinterpret outcomes after the fact rather than face error, just as vague horoscopes or psychics often do.


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What Modern Prophets Actually Said About the 2020 Election (And How They Responded)

One of the most revealing ways to evaluate modern prophetic culture is to look at what was actually said in real time, not how it was reinterpreted afterward.

🗣 Robin Bullock — Prophet on Elijah Streams

Prophet Robin Bullock repeatedly insisted that those who prophesied Trump’s reelection could not possibly have been wrong:

“There’s some things that we’ve given in a prophetic word… they come to pass… Do you think that they would hit it on everything like that and miss who won the election? Folks, that’s stupid.”
— Robin Bullock, publicly defending prophetic accuracy months after the 2020 election loss.

Bullock is still on platforms like Elijah Streams, and this quote shows a postureer than admitting error*.


📺 Gene Bailey — FlashPoint Host Framing Politics as Spiritual

While not a prophet himself, FlashPoint host Gene Bailey has used prophetic language alongside political rhetoric. For example, during a Trump interview, Bailey prayed that:

“God would motivate the American people… to get out and vote in mass like they’ve never voted before.”
— Gene Bailey on FlashPoint, showing how political campaigning and prophetic framing were intertwined.

This shows the blend of media, prophecy, and political exhortation that shaped perception during the election.


🗣 Lance Wallnau — “Cyrus Anointing” for Trump

Lance Wallnacher on FlashPoint and within the prophetic scene — framed Trump’s presidency as having divine dimension:

“Donald Trump is more prophetic than people think… There is a Cyrus anointing on this man… he is like a Reformer in secular garb.”
— Lance Wallnau, promoting a spiritual identity for Trump long before the 2020 vote.

After the election loss, Wallnau and others recast the outcome as part of spiritual conflict — implying that demons hijacked the result rather than acknowledging a mis-prophecy.


🗣 Multiple Prophets Across the Movement

Across Apostolic circles, dozens of leaders declared that Trump would win re-election, sometimes in strikingly specific terms:

  • Kat Kerr reportedly said Trump would win in a “landslide.”

  • Others — including Paula White-Cain, Kris Vallotton, Mark Taylor, Marcus Rogers, and Jeremiah Johnson — issued similar predictions tied to spiritual affirmations of Trump’s leadership.r compilation from 2020 noted that more than 150 self-proclaimed prophets missed the mark with predictions of a “red wave” and Trump victory.

📌 Continued Assertion After Reality

After the election outcome was clear, many prophets did not withdraw their claims or repent publicly. Instead:

  • Some shifted the timeline — claiming the prophesy was actually for 2024, not 2020.hers attributed the unexpected outcome to fraud or spiritual attack, framing the loss as external interference.

This has made accountability rare and rhetoric polarized.


📌 Mario Murillo’s Public Critique

Evangelist Mario Murillo from withinismatic media circles publicly called out figures like Kat Kerr, Robin Bullock, and others for their persistent assertions despite cleg predictions:

Murillo warned these “false prophets… are endangering Trump’s reelection” by making repeated unfulfake Christians look irrational.

Murillo has also questioned why prophetic leaders handle failed prophecies defensively rather than with transparent correction and repentance — another example of in-movement accountability attempts.

📌 Documented Prophetic Statements About the 2020 Election

These are actual words attributed to prophetic figures, each cited to reliable reports.

Kat Kerr (Elijah Streams / prophetic circles)

Prophetess Kat Kerr — a well-known voice in modern charismatic prophecy — declared emphatically before and after the 2020 election:

The rocks are about to move and Trump will be President no matter what you hear… Trump will win. He will be president of the United States. He will sit in that office for four more years…
— Kat Kerr, quoted in multiple reports on charismatic prophetic predictions.

Kerr’s language suggested not just spiritual favor, but certainty about the outcome.


Jeremiah Johnson (Jeremiah Johnson Ministries)

Another prophetic figure who did not back away from the Trump reelection prophecy:

“…Either a lying spirit has filled the mouths of numerous trusted prophetic voices in America or Donald J. Trump really has won the presidency…”
— Jeremiah Johnson, writing after the election when results pointed to Biden.

Johnson did not simply acknowledge a miss — he framed it as either deception or a stolen election.


Pat Robertson (The 700 Club)

Even outside charismatic prophetic circles, influential voices offered definitive predictions:

“I want to say without question, Trump is going to win the election.”
— Pat Robertson on CBN’s The 700 Club before the 2020 election.

This showed the breadth of the prophetic affirmation, crossing media platforms and theological streams.


Prophetic Leaders Who Missed the Mark

A compilation of high-profile prophetic leaders who declared Trump would win included:

  • Pat Robertson

  • Paula White-Cain

  • Kris Vallotton

  • Mark Taylor

  • Marcus Rogers

  • Kevin Zadai

  • Greg Locke

  • Hank Kunneman

  • Sid Roth

  • Taribo West

  • Denise Goulet

  • Curt Landry

  • Jeremiah Johnson… and many others.

— List of 12 or more prominent figures who prophesied Trump’s victory.

Only a small handful ever acknowledged the public miss.


Kris Vallotton (Bethel Church)

One notable exception was Bethel Church leader Kris Vallotton, who issued an apology:

“I take full responsibility for being wrong. There’s no excuse for it.”
— Kris Vallotton, publicly noting a mistake in prophecy.

His apology was notable because many others never issued one.


Alternate Prophetic Reframing: Delay or Reinterpretation

After the election, some prophetic voices and watchers offered reinterpretations instead of admissions of error:

  • Some suggested 2020 prophetic words were actually about 2024.

  • Others claimed the outcome was distorted by spiritual warfare or fraud, not a genuine prophetic miss.

This shows a broader pattern: when prophecy doesn’t manifest as originally stated, explanations shift rather than encourage repentance.


📌 Patterns in Follow-Up Responses

Maintaining the Prediction Without Accountability

Robin Bullock — another modern prophetic figure — doubled down years later:

“Do you think that they would hit it on everything like that and miss who won the election? Folks, that’s stupid.”
— Robin Bullock on why prophetic words couldn’t be wrong, even though they clearly didn’t manifest.

This statement illustrates a defensive posture where prophetic authority is protected from falsification.


2020 Prophecies Turned into Spiritual Warfare Narratives

After results were clear, many voices continued to frame the situation as spiritual conflict:

  • Strong language about “diabolical plans” or “lying spirits” replacing straightforward acknowledgment of error.

This reflects a shift from specific prediction to interpretative narrative — a pattern your blog will rightly question.


📌 Why These Quotes Are Important

These are not hearsay or paraphrase — they are verifiable statements made publicly before or after the 2020 election, and they illustrate key issues you’re examining:

✦ Specific Predictions Were Made

Many leaders didn’t offer vague spiritual encouragement — they made concrete, conditional prophetic predictions about a U.S. political outcome.

✦ After the Fact, Many Did Not Repent

Instead of admitting a publicly recorded prophetic miss, the responses ranged from:

  • reframing as future fulfillment,

  • explaining via spiritual warfare and fraud narratives,

  • or doubling down without correction.

✦ Few Acknowledged the Election Result

Only a small minority, like Kris Vallotton, publicly apologized before backtracking.


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📌 Documented Prophetic Statements Before and After the 2020 Election

Kat Kerr — Elijah Streams

A widely circulated prophecy from Kat Kerr foresaw a divine overturning of election results:

“The rocks are about to move and Trump will be President no matter what you hear… Trump will win. He will be president of the United States… and God will have His way in this country.”

This was widely shared in prophetic circles and featured on platforms like Elijah Streams.


Jeremiah Johnson

After the election, Jeremiah Johnson responded to the apparent loss by framing the result as deception or fraud:

spirit has filled the mouths of numerous trusted prophetic voices… or Donald J. Trump really has won the presidency…”**

He later elaborated on a dream that implied Trump would ultimately overcome obstacles — a symbolic continuation rather than correction of a failed prophecy.


Pat Robertson — CBN’s The 700 Club

Even outside charismatic “prophetic media,” Robertson made a clear prediction:

“I want to say without question win the election.”

This shows the reach and influence of the 2020 prophetic consensus.


Dozens of Prophets Predicted Trump’s Win

A compilation of prophetic leaders who predicted Trump’s victory included names like:

  • Pat Robertson

  • Paula White-Cain

  • Kris Vallotton

  • Mark Taylor

  • Marcus Rogers

  • Kevin Zadai

  • Greg Locke

  • Hank Kh

  • Taribo West

  • Denise Goulet

  • Curt Landry

  • Jeremiah Johnson

— These figures were publicly recorded prophesying a Trump win.

This list shows that prophesies about a Trump victory were not isolated but widespread.


Prophetic Reaffirmations After the Election

Instead of acknowledging the loss, some continued to reinterpret or refuse to accept the outcome:

  • Some prophets insisted the election was not yet over and that Trump would ultimately prevail.

  • Others shifted the prophecy’future election cycle (e.g., 2024) instead of 2020.

This pattern is important — instead of correction, many prophetic voices reframed their messages.


Kris Vallotton — A Rare Admission

Bethel Church leader Kris Vallotton publicly apologized for missing the prophecy about Trump:

“I take ffor being wrong. There’s no excuse for it.”

Vallotton’s apology was notable because few other prophetic leaders offered anything similar publicly.


Mario Murillo on Wrong Predictions

Evangelist Mario Murillo, who previously appeared on platforms like FlashPoint, *questioned the ce making repeated failed predictions:

Murillo criticized self-described prophets for not correcting or repenction prophecies failed and warned this behavior “makes believers (and all Christians) look crazy.”

Murillo’s critique was significant because it came from inside charismatic prophetic culture.


Dutch Sheets and Spiritual Warfare Narratives

Charismatic leader Dutch Sheets — not a prophet in the same pattern — encouraged prayer over the election results and framed the loss as part of spiritual conflict:

Sheets used prayer rallies and tools like the GiveHim15 app for ongoing engagement around the, arguing that spiritual forces were at work.

This shows how some prophetic or para-prophetic leaders moved from predictions to ongoing spiritual warfare frameworks.


📌 A Broader Pattern

Many Leaders Missed the Mark

A compilation showed 25 Christian leaders who prophesied Trump would win in 2020 — including many listed above — and **only a few after it became clear he lost.

Shifting Explanations Instead of Repentance

After the election, rather than publicly revising or retracting their words:

  • Some leaders insisted the election was stolen (spiritual or literal fraud).

  • Some later suggested the prophetic words were actually about another election year (e.g., 2024).

  • Very few offered accountability or transparent correction.

This kind of *after-the-fact reinterpy the behavior many critics — like Mario Murillo — have questioned.


📌 Why These Quotes Matter

These real quotes reveal several patterns that ground your blented reality:

Specific Predictions Were Made icly stated Trump would be reelected or d — not vaguely, but with certainty.

Responses to Failure Were Often Reframing or Denial

Instead ofging missed prophecy, many leaders shifted the narrative or invoked spiritual causes.

Very Little Accountability Was Offered

Only a small number acknowledged error; most did not engage with the biblical standard for testing prophecy (Deut 18:22).


What This Shows

When prophets publicly claim:

  • Trump would be reelected

  • God had revealed nationaection results themselves were spiritual battles

…and those statements prove clearly incorrect, truth-seeking believers face a dilemma:

Do we:

  • Treat every prophetic voice as infallible?

  • Pivot to political explanations to defend prophetic accuracy?

  • Reinterpret the indsight?

  • Or hold prophecy to biblical standards of testability, accountability, and humility?

Scripture’s test for prophecy isn’t popularity or post-hoc reinterpretation — it’s whether tpens as stated (Deuteronomy 18:22; 1 Thessalonians 5:20–21).

Prophecy in the Modern Church: Platforms, Predictions, Accountability, and Discernment

Prophecy has always been part of the Christian story. From the prophets of Israel to the apostles in Acts and the New Testament letters, God spoke through men and women to call His people back to Himself. But in the modern era, prophecy has taken on new dimensions — especially when it intersects with politics, media platforms like FlashPoint and Elijah Streams, and highly publicized prophetic voices.

This post looks at how prophecy is viewed today, the real documented things prophetic voices said about the 2020 U.S. election, what happened when those predictions didn’t materialize, and what that should mean for Christian discernment.


How Christians View Prophecy Today

Different Christian traditions approach prophecy differently:

  • Cessationists believe that once the New Testament was complete, the gifting of prophecy ceased.

  • Continuationists believe prophecy continues but must be tested against Scripture.

  • Prophetic media culture often treats prophetic words as ongoing revelation, sometimes tied to current events or political outcomes.

The key question is not whether God speaks today — few serious theologians deny that — but how we test, interpret, and judge modern prophetic words biblically.


Platforms Where Modern Prophecy Is Amplified

📺 FlashPoint

FlashPoint is a media platform that blends prophetic commentary, politics, and cultural analysis, particularly around elections and national identity. It has hosted many leaders who frame current events in prophetic language.

🔔 Elijah Streams

Elijah Streams, hosted by Steve Shultz, provides a platform for charismatic prophetic voices to speak directly to audiences. Many prophetic declarations about national politics have circulated through this channel.

I listened to both extensively with genuine interest — not cynicism — because I wanted to understand the movement from the inside, not from the outside looking in.


What Prophetic Voices Actually Said About the 2020 Election

Here are real, documented prophetic statements that were publicly made leading up to and after the 2020 U.S. election:

Kat Kerr — Elijah Streams

Prophetess Kat Kerr spoke with conviction before and immediately after the election:

“The rocks are about to move and Trump will be President no matter what you hear… Trump will win. He will be President of the United States… and God will have His way in this country.”

Even after the election outcome was clear, Kerr framed the situation as still within God’s unfolding plan.


Jeremiah Johnson

Johnson’s response underscored a common pattern — instead of admitting a mistake, he offered alternatives:

“Either a lying spirit has filled the mouths of numerous trusted prophetic voices in America or Donald J. Trump really has won the presidency…”
— Jeremiah Johnson, early post-election analysis

Later, he publicly repented of missing the prophecy:

“…I want to sincerely apologize for missing the prophecy about Donald Trump.”

His repentance was notable precisely because many other prophets did not issue similar apologies.


Pat Robertson — CBN’s The 700 Club

Even outside charismatic prophetic media, established Christian leaders made firm predictions:

“I want to say without question, Trump is going to win the election.”
— Pat Robertson during a broadcast of The 700 Club

This shows that the idea of Trump’s victory was widely shared, not limited to one or two voices.


Dutch Sheets — FlashPoint-Associated

Dutch Sheets, a figure tied into the broader charismatic nationalist ecosystem, interpreted the outcome after rather than predicting it precise:

“We don’t always know God’s plans… God knows what he’s doing.”
Describing how Trump’s loss “had to happen this way” while still affirming Trump’s role in God’s purposes.

Sheets’ response is illustrative: when specific predictions fail, the narrative sometimes shifts to God’s hidden timing rather than plain prophetic accountability.


What Lists of Prophets Showed

Independent tracking found dozens of Christian leaders — including Paula White-Cain, Kris Vallotton, Mark Taylor, Marcus Rogers, Kevin Zadai, Greg Locke, Hank Kunneman, and others — who publicly prophesied Trump’s victory in 2020.

Most of these names continue to be influential among charismatic audiences despite the electoral outcome.


How Prophetic Responses Shifted After the Election

Instead of broad public repentance or correction, many responses took these forms:

1. Reframing or Reinterpreting

Some argued the prophecy applied to a future election (e.g., 2024).

2. External Causes — Fraud or Spiritual Warfare

Instead of acknowledging the miss, many began attributing the electoral outcome to fraud, spiritual attack, or other causes outside the original prediction parameters. Murillo himself has posted in ways suggesting that accepting Biden’s victory is spiritually unfaithful.

3. Insisting Prophets Couldn’t Be Wrong

Self-described prophet Robin Bullock publicly doubled down in 2023:

“There’s some things that we’ve given in a prophetic word… absolutely there’s no way you could have made it up… you cannot be wrong.”

This reflects a broader defensive posture rather than repentance.


The Critique From Within: Mario Murillo

One of the most striking developments was when Mario Murillo — someone who has long moved in similar circles — publicly criticized the prophetic culture itself:

  • Murillo warned that voices like Kat Kerr, Robin Bullock, and Julie Green were false prophets making dangerous statements that made Christians look irrational.

  • He voiced concern that untested prophecy tied to political outcomes was distracting from the gospel and making believers dependent on prophetic hype rather than Christ and Scripture.

Murillo argued that the prophetic gift must be tested the way Scripture commands and that when a prophecy fails to come to pass as stated, it should be judged accordingly.

This intra-movement critique triggered significant pushback from followers of those prophets — not because their predictions were shown wrong, but because asking the question at all felt like disloyalty.


Prophetic Accountability: What the Bible Says

The Bible is clear about testing prophecy — especially when specific predictions are made:

“When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD and the thing does not happen… that is a word the LORD has not spoken.”
— Deuteronomy 18:22

And Paul tells the church:

“…test everything; hold fast what is good.”
— 1 Thessalonians 5:21

Prophecy is not immune to evaluation.


Why This Matters

This isn’t just about political prophecy. It’s about discernment, trustworthiness, and how the church honors God’s Word when charismatic language intersects with public events. When prophetic voices:

  • make specific predictions

  • resist accountability when they miss

  • double down and reinterpret instead of correcting

…it raises legitimate questions about how prophecy is being wielded — and whether it is producing biblical fruit or confusion and division.


Conclusion: Prophecy Must Be Tested, Not Idolized

Prophecy can be a gift that:

  • encourages believers

  • calls people to holiness

  • warns of danger

  • points to Christ

But modern prophetic culture often blends:

  • political expectations

  • media influence

  • personality dynamics

This doesn’t make prophecy invalid — it makes discernment essential.

And part of discernment is simple:
Did it happen as predicted?
Is there accountability when it doesn’t?
Does the response honor God’s Word or protect reputations?

The prophets of old were corrected, rebuked, and sometimes punished when their words failed.
Today, fewer question prophetic platforms at all.

But Scripture still calls the church to test the spirits — not suppress questioning, not attack the messenger, but bring everything to the light of God’s Word (1 John 4:1).

Prophecy that cannot be tested is not prophecy; it’s speculation dressed in spiritual language.

How to Disagree Without Calling Someone a False Prophet

Biblical Discernment Without Cancel Culture or Blind Loyalty

In recent years, conversations about prophecy—especially around politics—have become radioactive. Question a prophetic word, and you’re accused of unbelief. Ask for accountability, and you’re labeled divisive. Say nothing, and confusion quietly spreads.

Many Christians are caught in the middle:
They don’t want to despise prophecy.
They don’t want to endorse error.
And they definitely don’t want to start calling fellow believers “false prophets” lightly.

The good news? Scripture gives us a third way—one that values truth and humility.

Disagreement Is Not Disloyalty

One of the most damaging assumptions in modern prophetic culture is this idea:

If you question a prophecy, you are attacking the prophet.

Biblically, that’s simply not true.

Paul commands believers to judge prophecy, not personalities:

“Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said.”
— 1 Corinthians 14:29

Notice:

  • The prophecy is weighed

  • The prophet is not excommunicated

  • The process is communal, not authoritarian

Disagreement is not rebellion.
Discernment is not dishonor.

The Bible Uses Careful Language — We Should Too

Scripture does not treat every incorrect word the same way.

There is a difference between:

  • A mistaken prophecy

  • A misinterpretation

  • A presumptuous word

  • A pattern of deception

Calling someone a “false prophet” in Scripture is not about being wrong once. It’s about persistent deception, refusal to repent, and leading people away from God.

That’s a high bar—and it should be.

How the New Testament Handles Prophetic Error

The New Testament assumes prophecy can be imperfect:

“For we know in part and we prophesy in part.”
— 1 Corinthians 13:9

That means:

  • Sincerity does not guarantee accuracy

  • Anointing does not eliminate human limitation

  • Confidence does not equal correctness

When error happens, Scripture doesn’t tell us to:

  • Excuse it endlessly

  • Reframe it into success

  • Or silence questions

It tells us to test, correct, and grow.

A Healthier Framework for Disagreement

Instead of immediately labeling someone a false prophet, here are better, biblical questions to ask:

1. Was the prophecy specific or vague?

Specific predictions carry greater responsibility.

2. Was the outcome clearly different than stated?

Clarity matters. Scripture does not rely on endless reinterpretation.

3. Was there humility afterward?

James reminds us God gives grace to the humble—not the uncorrectable.

4. Was there accountability?

Were leaders willing to revisit the word publicly?

5. Is there a pattern?

One error is not a ministry-ending event. A repeated refusal to admit error might be.

These questions protect both truth and unity.

Why We Should Be Slow to Use the Label “False Prophet”

Calling someone a false prophet is a serious charge with serious consequences. Used carelessly, it:

  • Hardens hearts

  • Ends dialogue

  • Pushes people into camps instead of repentance

Jesus warned about careless judgment not because discernment is wrong—but because misplaced judgment blinds us to our own pride.

Wisdom says:

Correct first
Clarify second
Confront patterns, not moments

Accountability Without Destruction

Biblical correction always has a goal: restoration.

Paul rebuked Peter publicly—but he didn’t disqualify him permanently. Nathan confronted David—but repentance followed. Even false prophets in Scripture were warned before judgment came.

Accountability is not about winning arguments.
It’s about protecting the flock.

When the Label Does Become Necessary

There are moments when Scripture uses strong language:

  • When someone refuses correction

  • When deception becomes systemic

  • When followers are taught never to question

  • When error is reframed as divine mystery instead of acknowledged

Even then, the goal is not humiliation—but warning.

But that determination should be made carefully, prayerfully, and collectively—not impulsively or emotionally.

The Way Forward

The church does not need:

  • More prophecy without testing

  • Or more testing without love

It needs mature discernment.

You can:

  • Believe God still speaks

  • Value prophetic voices

  • Ask hard questions

  • And refuse to weaponize labels

All at the same time.

That’s not compromise.
That’s biblical balance.

Final Thought

Truth does not fear examination.
Prophecy does not need protection from questions.
And unity that requires silence is not unity—it’s pressure.

The goal is not to tear down prophets.
The goal is to build a church that loves truth more than platforms, and humility more than being right.

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